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January 22, 2012

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SusanJane

Wowza. Unique and informative. My Mom and sister liked The Secret. Can't wait to show them the last one. Education reform has been my rant for 40 years --- only a certain kind of person learns in the school. I've seen too many smart, creative people get crushed. But the bits on anxiety are most definetly page worthy. Thanks for the great links!

PJ

Having taught 2nd and 3rd grades for nearly 20 years I have been fascinated by this seeming drop off in creativity at about 8-9 years old. One thing I find very interesting about this age is that most 9 year olds love games with rules. If they are not provided with rules for a game they will make up rules and self-enforce them. It seems to be part of the natural developmental process. As a teacher I tried to keep their open, creative, freely drawing selves alive. Most of them choose to self-limit or give-up.

If they have developed some skill drawing a particular motif they will limit themselves to that. Individuals will draw only cars, only horses, only face profiles, whatever they feel they have skill at. They abandon options they are not comfortable with. They are uncomfortable without familiar structure and will self-limit.

I know that many creative people get crushed along the way. I don't deny that one bit. I'm only speaking to one developmental stage I have personally witnessed and found interesting.

PJ

I am making my post into 2 parts because I didn't want it to drag on. Here is Part 2.

Before the advent of manufactured goods creativity was hand in hand with need. You needed pillow cases so you made them. And while you were at it in the long winter evenings you embellished them. You needed them you made them. Nobody did it for you. Everyone created because it was part of filling life's needs.

We can talk about art but for demonstration, I'll talk about singing and dancing. I have an ordinary singing voice. A little flat here and there, nothing anybody other than a child who loved me would care about. But I listen not to a community of people who sing like me, but I listen to the world's best. And everyone else listens to the world best. And if you have a choice...do your friends sit around and sing and tell their children they are singers? Probably not. We probably download and listen to other people sing.

The point being, whether it is art, singing, or dancing we now not only have our ordinary community to compare ourselves to, not just the best in our community, but the best of the best in all the world.

For many people it is easier, pleasanter to just plug into the best of the best and consider ourselves non-singers, non-dancers, non-artists in comparison.

If we think about how we are in fields outside of art, it can more easily understand the dynamics of how we came to feel the way we do about art.

So, how good a seamstress are you? Are you a singer? But ALL people are singers! All people need clothing. Are you a good shelter builder? But ALL people build shelters. I think it puts it in perspective.

leslie herger

@susanjane YES! The anxiety bit is really interesting. I was never a fan of the secret and Ive not been a fan of the Plaster a smile on your face and delude yourself into thinking your life is better than it is. Im a big fan of realism. Im not suggesting that positive thinking is wrong- but I think we need to shift from the fake positivity to the real positive IE looking for real solutions to the issues of our lives. Sticking our heads into the sand is never useful, but actively seeking out real solution is, and its 100% positive.

leslie herger

@PJ YESYESYES I tried to touch on the aspect that kids at developmental milestones move toward realism. Its a matter of development rather than the school system crushing them. I think that every single creative person I know has a story of when someone, usually a teacher or family member, said something horribly crushing to their artistic nature. I think that is more important in crushing artistry than other issues in the school system.

That being said, I think that what this TED talk was MOSTLY about was about how little children are allowed to learn about science and math without structure. Standardized testing is making American SChool neurotic about  whatthey teach, many teachers are so worried about the end results they use the wrong the means to get there. Many of the things on the standardized tests will be a natural and organic result of the learning process- teach as a process and the end results is higher standardized test scores.

PJ

Process is such an important word. I spent almost all of my life being an end-result person. It got me academic honors, lots of promotions, and...well, not a whole lot of joy. I discovered the beauty and limitlessness of process a few years ago. Wow! Who knew?

leslie herger

@PJ yes process is an amazing thing. End results have their place but process, mhmm its where its at. that being said, balance is good too. I guess we have to find the right spot for our individual selves. This is a topic, i think, to explore... Ideas. Thanks for the inspiration!

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